no kidding, i sense brainwash by the communist party.
"chairman mao", what a joke! He should be "Criminal Mao"...he destroyed more history and culture in China than the Japanese/american/british/german/french/italian invasions in WWII and 1900. He may even killed more people during his Great Leap Forward that resulted in massive famine, potentially around 15 million excess deaths incurred in China during 1958–61.作者: milk 时间: 2015-11-17 22:45
"chairman mao", what a joke! He should be "Criminal Mao"...he destroyed more history and culture in China than the Japanese/american/british/german/french/italian invasions in WWII and 1900. He may even killed more people during his Great Leap Forward that resulted in massive famine, potentially around 15 million excess deaths incurred in China during 1958–61.
I'm not going to argue with you, the facts about Mao have already been written. You can choose to look through rose-tinted spectacles and believe whatever you want, it makes no difference to me. But I want to ask you.. If Mao's legacy really created a better society, why do people want to immigrate to the west but not the other way around? Last I checked there was a mass exodus of the upper and upper-middle class from China to the U.S. Make no mistake about this: The U.S. is a bastion of the most tolerant and ethnically integrated society in the world. There are obvious problems that are associated with the empowerment of individual human rights in such a diversified culture. IF the U.S. fails as a society it will be because we as a human race does not have the capacity to see past our own petty differences.作者: springwater 时间: 2015-11-20 12:20
I was referring to social structure and the empowerment of individual rights(人权) in my last post, but you immediately assumed that I was defending democracy(民主) and U.S. foreign policy. You assumed that I couldn't speak Chinese just because I have a basic command of the English language. You assumed that I did not understand Chinese culture when in fact I have spent almost half of my life living in China.
I think you make a lot of assumptions.
Your behavior is typical of an armchair pseudo-ideologist though. I've come across many like you in my adventures through the internets. You have a skewed vision of reality built upon assumptions made within your limited experience and (state-censored) information. But it's important to understand that true logical analysis and objectivity do not come from assumptions, they come from explicit facts.
Here are some facts for you:
Just 4 months into 2015, the US has already depleted its annual supply of EB-5 immigrant (investor) visas.. Chinese nationals account for 90% of total visas issued. The expatriation of the upper/upper-middle class citizens posed a big enough threat that the Chinese government had to send official envoys overseas in an attempt to repatriate these individuals.
"谁可以保证美国人欧洲人不会向中国人学习?"
I'm not going to make assumptions of what the west has learned from the Chinese, but I do know what China has already learned from the west. China has been functioning in the form of "state capitalism" and has just recently surpassed the U.S. in income inequality. The PRC was founded on egalitarian ideals, so you have to appreciate the irony here.
"你连中文都不会讲,能理解中国文化的以和为贵的思想."
As I mentioned earlier I spent the first half of my life in China so my Mandarin is fluent, and I still frequent this site and some others like it to acquaint myself with China's current state of affairs. I've traveled to more than 10 different countries and I have lived in 3 of them. I don't make assumptions about these societies and cultures because I don't need to, I've experienced them first-hand.
"毛泽东带领中国人站立于世界民族之林"
Under Mao's rule, he adopted isolationism and China could not break even economically. Thanks to the cultural revolution China could not progress socially. The result is the death some 36 million+ from starvation, and some 300,000 suicides from the social pressure Mao's policies inflicted on the capitalists and intellectuals. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what happens to a society when you systematically kill off the scholars and the entrepreneurs. You don't have to believe me, you don't even have to believe the history books. Feel free to talk to your parents, or grandparents and ask them what life was like under Mao's rule. It wasn't until 1978 that Deng opened China's doors to international trade and put a stop to Mao's disastrous policies. The success of China today should be attributed to Mao's death. If he had lived another 30 years, China would still be like North Korea.
I honestly don't understand your blatant disregard for facts. Indoctrination maybe? Fanaticism? Idolatry? Mao was a horrible leader, Deng was less so. Xi is heading in the right direction because the economy in China continues to flourish under his policies. There are good leaders and bad leaders, just like every country in the world.作者: springwater 时间: 2015-11-22 12:46
Read my posts again. I never once attacked the Chinese people. On the contrary, I sympathize with the Chinese people. I pointed out that Mao had employed disastrous policies that lead to the suffering and death of the Chinese people. I criticized China's current socio-economic policy that produced the worst part of capitalism - income inequality, because I want the Chinese middle class to succeed. All of my criticism have been for the benefit of the Chinese people and society. You just took it personally because you idolize Mao.
I don't agree with U.S. foreign policy either. I don't think democracy is a good thing if the general population do not possess the ability to think critically. I don't look at labels, I look at facts. It is a fact that as of right now, the west has proven to be a better society to live in than China. People will always flock to better places. This may change in the future, nobody knows. But right now it is true. If you deny this fact you're just fooling yourself.作者: springwater 时间: 2015-11-23 14:54
I understand why you are angry. You are blindly devoted to Mao the same way religious fanatics are blindly devoted to their religion. I understand that by calling me a "traitor to my own ethnicity" makes you feel better, the same way a Muslim fundamentalist feel like strapping on a suicide bomb when people talk about Mohammed. Ignorant zealots like yourself will never have the capacity to see reason or consequence. I wasn't trying to change your mind, I was merely stating historical facts. If you want to cry about it and call me names go right ahead. I don't mind putting you in your place.作者: milk 时间: 2015-11-24 02:20
本帖最后由 milk 于 2015-11-24 02:26 编辑
By the way, if you have any friends that are trying to learn proper English, you should ask them to read these posts. I feel like a lot of the articulation and eloquence in my writing is lost on you. My posts would definitely help somebody who is trying to improve their English writing skills.作者: jiashiyu 时间: 2015-12-12 09:18
